Captain America: Civil War
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tari_rooI am delightfully, happily and inordinately pleased :)
That was amazing!
I loved the first Avengers. It was such a rush and incredible climax for the team to FINALLY get together and kick ass. It packed power, emotion and utter fangirl joy. I loved it. The last 30 minutes remain my favourite 30 mins in the marvel universe so far.
Captain America: Winter Soldier though is my favourite marvel movie as a whole. Start to finish. I have 3 fav parts (see previous posts on this) but as a whole, incredible entity it is the pinnacle of marvel movies (so far).
Civil War tops Avengers 2 - by far. Its pretty much how Avengers 2 should have been... without the internal fighting obviously, but still. It was amazing. Its only detraction is the fact that ... well.. its civil war. Its our favs fighting. The team breaking up. The drawing of lines.
eh, who am I kidding. I like that too! I love it!! Its... inevitable. No, really, it is *points at comics* They are constantly falling out, getting back together, falling apart, regrouping, and welll... it makes for great story telling. Its actually what I've been thinking about some of the fan reactions to season 2 of Daredevil. My internal monologue to the complainers is pretty much: did you not see this coming? it was inevitable. Foggy doesn't really agree with Matt's decisions, he wants to be a successful lawyer, Karen is obsessed with the truth, and Matt won't stop being Daredevil. A breakup is inevitable.
What is important is this: Its not permanent. It's part of the fun (as it were) - getting the band back together. Forgiving and moving past. Not forgiving and working together anyway. Its... oh, its the squishy goo of complex feels and emotions that the sheer joy of the Winter Soldier multiplied and expanded to ALL the Avengers etc and that... eeeee.... I love it.
What I loved:
Everything. Really.
Zemo.... ohohohoh, so villianious and successful.
T'Challa - so so cool. Awesome suit and hard core and determined
Clint and Natasha fighting - we're still friends right?
Bucky!! He remembers everything. He doesn't want to be triggered. He hates it. He's conflicted and remembers Steve and Dolores and being 100 years, but there's still this thing between them, this distance, the gulf of 70 years and Hydra and it also doesn't matter 'cos 'He's my friend!'
I knew Stark's reaction was going to be bad, but I'm glad he was fighting Steve and Bucky at the end not because of some ridiculous regulation/agreement, but because he was pissed and hurt and grieving and it was right! Just as much as it was wrong. Arghghghghghghg!!!
Tony recruiting Peter Parker
Ant-man getting no respect and growing huge and star wars references and the awesomeness of Paul Rudd
Clint. Just.... Clint.
Every single fight scene. But especially the end ones. The sheer utter brutality, the full out friend against friend and just.... *flails*
Steve's letter to Tony
Peggy's funeral.
Bucky and Sam's faces when Steve kisses Sharon (LOL)
This, this DC, this is a superhero team up with internal conflict. THIS!!
What I didn't like: Middling things
............. I'm sure I'll think of something.
Oh, yeah.... they fought. Friends were hurt. Rhodey was hurt. Some things can't be fixed. And it felt real and handled well, but it was still sad. The reality of superhero actions on innocent lives. An unpleasant reminder but so true.
So, not that I didn't like it, it's more... what I appreciated and how they handled it.
Why is Avengers Infinity thing only in 2018????????
I am so seeing this again!
That was amazing!
I loved the first Avengers. It was such a rush and incredible climax for the team to FINALLY get together and kick ass. It packed power, emotion and utter fangirl joy. I loved it. The last 30 minutes remain my favourite 30 mins in the marvel universe so far.
Captain America: Winter Soldier though is my favourite marvel movie as a whole. Start to finish. I have 3 fav parts (see previous posts on this) but as a whole, incredible entity it is the pinnacle of marvel movies (so far).
Civil War tops Avengers 2 - by far. Its pretty much how Avengers 2 should have been... without the internal fighting obviously, but still. It was amazing. Its only detraction is the fact that ... well.. its civil war. Its our favs fighting. The team breaking up. The drawing of lines.
eh, who am I kidding. I like that too! I love it!! Its... inevitable. No, really, it is *points at comics* They are constantly falling out, getting back together, falling apart, regrouping, and welll... it makes for great story telling. Its actually what I've been thinking about some of the fan reactions to season 2 of Daredevil. My internal monologue to the complainers is pretty much: did you not see this coming? it was inevitable. Foggy doesn't really agree with Matt's decisions, he wants to be a successful lawyer, Karen is obsessed with the truth, and Matt won't stop being Daredevil. A breakup is inevitable.
What is important is this: Its not permanent. It's part of the fun (as it were) - getting the band back together. Forgiving and moving past. Not forgiving and working together anyway. Its... oh, its the squishy goo of complex feels and emotions that the sheer joy of the Winter Soldier multiplied and expanded to ALL the Avengers etc and that... eeeee.... I love it.
What I loved:
Everything. Really.
Zemo.... ohohohoh, so villianious and successful.
T'Challa - so so cool. Awesome suit and hard core and determined
Clint and Natasha fighting - we're still friends right?
Bucky!! He remembers everything. He doesn't want to be triggered. He hates it. He's conflicted and remembers Steve and Dolores and being 100 years, but there's still this thing between them, this distance, the gulf of 70 years and Hydra and it also doesn't matter 'cos 'He's my friend!'
I knew Stark's reaction was going to be bad, but I'm glad he was fighting Steve and Bucky at the end not because of some ridiculous regulation/agreement, but because he was pissed and hurt and grieving and it was right! Just as much as it was wrong. Arghghghghghghg!!!
Tony recruiting Peter Parker
Ant-man getting no respect and growing huge and star wars references and the awesomeness of Paul Rudd
Clint. Just.... Clint.
Every single fight scene. But especially the end ones. The sheer utter brutality, the full out friend against friend and just.... *flails*
Steve's letter to Tony
Peggy's funeral.
Bucky and Sam's faces when Steve kisses Sharon (LOL)
This, this DC, this is a superhero team up with internal conflict. THIS!!
............. I'm sure I'll think of something.
Oh, yeah.... they fought. Friends were hurt. Rhodey was hurt. Some things can't be fixed. And it felt real and handled well, but it was still sad. The reality of superhero actions on innocent lives. An unpleasant reminder but so true.
So, not that I didn't like it, it's more... what I appreciated and how they handled it.
Why is Avengers Infinity thing only in 2018????????
I am so seeing this again!
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Date: 2016-05-05 02:33 am (UTC)Did they really break up Tony and Pepper (nooooo)? Was it just tossed off or what? (That's what would kill a lot for me, because their dynamic was basically the soul of all three movies).
Any backstory stuff on Natasha?
Did they stick with the Winter Soldier/Hydra thing, or did they incorporate any of the soviet stuff?
Also, it's funny how much my feelings on the movies have become like my feelings on the comics- like individual books, kind of dread ensembles as being inevitable and potentially messing up the things I love, haha.
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Date: 2016-05-05 03:47 am (UTC)I'll give it to you straight though:
Yes, Tony and Pepper are on a break. It's not a throw away though. It really plays into Tony's headspace, and while its not clear if they argued about Ultron or how he's handled it since, his actions are part of why they are on a break. And there is a scene with Cap that really touches that raw nerve with Tony when Steve asks if Pepper is laying low for a different reason. It kinda fit into the overall 'Consequences' theme.
No backstory on Natasha. Which, take it any way you like. The focus is on the civil war story and the consequences/actions leading to it. There is no real divergence into other backstories
They kinda stuck with Winter Soldier/Hydra. Its the main focus on Bucky's story - we see more of his past and time with them. But there are hints of the broader soviet empire.
LOL re your feels. I get it, I do.
I have to run, I'll expound more tonight